In this episode, Philip Redhead speaks with Elisabeth Puistienne about her transition from in-house legal work to entrepreneurship through Liberius, and the opportunities for experienced lawyers beyond traditional law firms. The pair discuss the value of in-house experience, the appeal of greater autonomy and independence, and how senior lawyers can navigate a career change. Elizabeth also shares insights on the importance of professional networks, building client relationships, and adapting to a new way of working. The conversation explores how non-traditional legal models are reshaping the profession and creating new opportunities for experienced lawyers.